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	<title>Comments on: Episode 415 &#8212; Public Key Encryption, Backing Up Drivers, Hackers are People Too Documentary, and Organize Your Music Collection</title>
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		<title>By: Jan Hendrikx</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31358</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Hendrikx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
 
Sorry for nagging about the SSH / Public Key topic.
 
Some follow-up on episode 415. The reason why you couldn&#039;t directly import a PuTTY generated key file into the server OpenSSH environment is because a .ppk file contains BOTH the public and private key. (The &quot;.ppk&quot; extension probably stands for something like: public private key). When you copy the public key part into an &quot;authorized_keys&quot; file on the linux server you should be able to authenticate with the PuTTY generated key. BTW: This is also suggested in the &quot;Key&quot; field of &quot;PuTTY Key Generator&quot;
 
E.g. see: http://www.ualberta.ca/CNS/RESEARCH/LinuxClusters/pka-putty.html
 
The way you made your solution working is unsafe because you now have multiple copies of your server&#039;s private key. And here is why:
What you did was copying the private key (In your case &quot;id_rsa&quot;) form the linux server to your XP machine and imported it into PuTTY. (You normally don&#039;t want to do that! Remember your Fort Knox remark about the private key.) So you actually &quot;stole&quot; the private key from your linux server, re-generated the public key with PuTTY and stored the key pair in a .ppk file. The only reason why this worked is that you knew the passphrase of the server&#039;s private key. (Normally Hackers work this way).
 
When Darren asked you to open the .ppk file in Notepad++ you could clearly see the linux server&#039;s public AND private key... (This is not probably what you want). When finally connecting to the ssh server you used your local copy of the server&#039;s private key.
 
The normal way to setup these kind of connections is demonstrated in the hyperlink mentioned above. So, the PuTTY generated public key should be copied to the linux server and added to a &quot;authorized_keys&quot; file, not by copying the servers private key to the XP system.
 
Regards, Jan Hendrikx.
(Located: The Netherlands)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Sorry for nagging about the SSH / Public Key topic.</p>
<p>Some follow-up on episode 415. The reason why you couldn&#8217;t directly import a PuTTY generated key file into the server OpenSSH environment is because a .ppk file contains BOTH the public and private key. (The &#8220;.ppk&#8221; extension probably stands for something like: public private key). When you copy the public key part into an &#8220;authorized_keys&#8221; file on the linux server you should be able to authenticate with the PuTTY generated key. BTW: This is also suggested in the &#8220;Key&#8221; field of &#8220;PuTTY Key Generator&#8221;</p>
<p>E.g. see: <a href="http://www.ualberta.ca/CNS/RESEARCH/LinuxClusters/pka-putty.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ualberta.ca/CNS/RESEARCH/LinuxClusters/pka-putty.html</a></p>
<p>The way you made your solution working is unsafe because you now have multiple copies of your server&#8217;s private key. And here is why:<br />
What you did was copying the private key (In your case &#8220;id_rsa&#8221;) form the linux server to your XP machine and imported it into PuTTY. (You normally don&#8217;t want to do that! Remember your Fort Knox remark about the private key.) So you actually &#8220;stole&#8221; the private key from your linux server, re-generated the public key with PuTTY and stored the key pair in a .ppk file. The only reason why this worked is that you knew the passphrase of the server&#8217;s private key. (Normally Hackers work this way).</p>
<p>When Darren asked you to open the .ppk file in Notepad++ you could clearly see the linux server&#8217;s public AND private key&#8230; (This is not probably what you want). When finally connecting to the ssh server you used your local copy of the server&#8217;s private key.</p>
<p>The normal way to setup these kind of connections is demonstrated in the hyperlink mentioned above. So, the PuTTY generated public key should be copied to the linux server and added to a &#8220;authorized_keys&#8221; file, not by copying the servers private key to the XP system.</p>
<p>Regards, Jan Hendrikx.<br />
(Located: The Netherlands)</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Hendrikx</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31357</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan Hendrikx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Chris,

When I watched episode 415, I noticed something in your explanation that, if I&#039;m correct, is wrong. It&#039;s something in your story about SSH and public key encryption.

Quote 1:&quot;...and you use the public key to encrypt your, you know, to encrypt and along with your passphrase...&quot; (AVI file: 0h:11m:19s)

Quote 2:&quot;...everyone can encrypt a message or, within variuos implementations, encrypt it with the passphrase..&quot; (AVI file: 0h:12m:13s)

This suggests that if someone wants to send you an encrypted message/file, he or she needs your public key ALONG with the passphrase you entered during the creation of your key pair. This isn&#039;t right in my opinion.
The only reason for the passphrase to exist is to protect your private key from abuse in case someone steels it.

(Also see: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596101954/using_passphrase_protection_of_ssh_keys?portal=informit).

That is why, each time you want to use your private key, your ssh-agent program will prompt you for the passphrase.

Cheers, Jan Hendrikx.
(Location: The Netherlands)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Chris,</p>
<p>When I watched episode 415, I noticed something in your explanation that, if I&#8217;m correct, is wrong. It&#8217;s something in your story about SSH and public key encryption.</p>
<p>Quote 1:&#8221;&#8230;and you use the public key to encrypt your, you know, to encrypt and along with your passphrase&#8230;&#8221; (AVI file: 0h:11m:19s)</p>
<p>Quote 2:&#8221;&#8230;everyone can encrypt a message or, within variuos implementations, encrypt it with the passphrase..&#8221; (AVI file: 0h:12m:13s)</p>
<p>This suggests that if someone wants to send you an encrypted message/file, he or she needs your public key ALONG with the passphrase you entered during the creation of your key pair. This isn&#8217;t right in my opinion.<br />
The only reason for the passphrase to exist is to protect your private key from abuse in case someone steels it.</p>
<p>(Also see: <a href="http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596101954/using_passphrase_protection_of_ssh_keys?portal=informit" rel="nofollow">http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596101954/using_passphrase_protection_of_ssh_keys?portal=informit</a>).</p>
<p>That is why, each time you want to use your private key, your ssh-agent program will prompt you for the passphrase.</p>
<p>Cheers, Jan Hendrikx.<br />
(Location: The Netherlands)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Chelen</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31356</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Chelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Like you said there are so many options there its hard to cover them all! Thinking back to using SSH in Windows Putty and WinSCP were some of the best, also many file transfer clients like FileZilla are crossplatform and support SFTP which is SSH compatible.
Using PamUSB for login looks like alot of fun, does it support SSH certificates? Looking forward to it =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Like you said there are so many options there its hard to cover them all! Thinking back to using SSH in Windows Putty and WinSCP were some of the best, also many file transfer clients like FileZilla are crossplatform and support SFTP which is SSH compatible.<br />
Using PamUSB for login looks like alot of fun, does it support SSH certificates? Looking forward to it =)</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31332</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

We can definitely do alternatives to what I did in my segment.  I actually have already gotten feedback regarding that and plan to do something with pamusb soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>We can definitely do alternatives to what I did in my segment.  I actually have already gotten feedback regarding that and plan to do something with pamusb soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Chelen</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Chelen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 10:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Public Key Encryption
PuTTy using OpenSSH is great, what about covering other Windows clients like WinSCP?
Shannon or Darren should go over how to use public key encryption for tasks like, say, connecting to a self-hosted Wordpress blog to add plugins like reCAPTCHA =)
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Public Key Encryption<br />
PuTTy using OpenSSH is great, what about covering other Windows clients like WinSCP?<br />
Shannon or Darren should go over how to use public key encryption for tasks like, say, connecting to a self-hosted WordPress blog to add plugins like reCAPTCHA =)<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Wholly</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31325</link>
		<dc:creator>Wholly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Darren even pay attention to the question Snubbs read?   

Skybar wanted to delete everything EXCEPT OS and Office from a machine he got from work.    SDelete won&#039;t help him.  In my experience only an OS reload will clean up a machine like that.  

And the answer to Darren&#039;s question is 10877 songs. 62.59 Gig.  German 80&#039;s Punk FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Darren even pay attention to the question Snubbs read?   </p>
<p>Skybar wanted to delete everything EXCEPT OS and Office from a machine he got from work.    SDelete won&#8217;t help him.  In my experience only an OS reload will clean up a machine like that.  </p>
<p>And the answer to Darren&#8217;s question is 10877 songs. 62.59 Gig.  German 80&#8242;s Punk FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: miljenko</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31324</link>
		<dc:creator>miljenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice shirt criss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice shirt criss.</p>
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		<title>By: hayden</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31313</link>
		<dc:creator>hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great to hear linux mentioned more ! puppy os is great ! its my only OS now for some time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great to hear linux mentioned more ! puppy os is great ! its my only OS now for some time <img src='http://Hak5.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31304</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the work you guys are doing! Thank you for doing such a great job! 

I use MediaMonkey for my mp3 collection. I organized my messed up collection with it a year or so ago. It helped with getting the covers and either putting them into the id3 tag or placing the file into the folder with the music (so you aren&#039;t changing the files). It also nicely organized my files into their own folders so everything wasn&#039;t stuffed into one massive file. I also used mp3tag to help make sure the filenames matched the id3 tags or vice versa. Mp3tag is free and there is a freeversion of mediamonkey. If you don&#039;t want to use itunes, mediamonkey (or the new Songbird) rock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loved the work you guys are doing! Thank you for doing such a great job! </p>
<p>I use MediaMonkey for my mp3 collection. I organized my messed up collection with it a year or so ago. It helped with getting the covers and either putting them into the id3 tag or placing the file into the folder with the music (so you aren&#8217;t changing the files). It also nicely organized my files into their own folders so everything wasn&#8217;t stuffed into one massive file. I also used mp3tag to help make sure the filenames matched the id3 tags or vice versa. Mp3tag is free and there is a freeversion of mediamonkey. If you don&#8217;t want to use itunes, mediamonkey (or the new Songbird) rock.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31303</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved your show guys and I&#039;m gonna look into setting up my own missle launcher soon,,,,,,,,I have a program you might like atleast I think you can still get it free it&#039;s called maxblast4 it&#039;s for maxtor drives an other I use is killdisk it has the dod option for realy wipping a drive thats asumming you have a floppy drive,I&#039;ve found quite a few older pc&#039;s that wont boot g-parted so I still use both killdisk&amp;maxblast4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved your show guys and I&#8217;m gonna look into setting up my own missle launcher soon,,,,,,,,I have a program you might like atleast I think you can still get it free it&#8217;s called maxblast4 it&#8217;s for maxtor drives an other I use is killdisk it has the dod option for realy wipping a drive thats asumming you have a floppy drive,I&#8217;ve found quite a few older pc&#8217;s that wont boot g-parted so I still use both killdisk&amp;maxblast4</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://Hak5.org/episodes/episode-415#comment-31302</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The driver back-up was great. I hate having to download and install driver when computers become corrupt. This is a great time saver. The music tagging software was great too. I had heard of Tuneupmedia but never tried it. I think I will after I saw how easy it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The driver back-up was great. I hate having to download and install driver when computers become corrupt. This is a great time saver. The music tagging software was great too. I had heard of Tuneupmedia but never tried it. I think I will after I saw how easy it was.</p>
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