This week Darren heads to the Department of Spontaneous Combustion to meet with PC guru Colleen Kelly and get learned up on the arts of water cooling. Then we’re joined by Mubix (aka Rob Fuller) for a discussion on EXIF data, geo location, and twitpic privacy. Plus, Shannon has the hookup on 25 gigs of free cloud storage!

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Water Cooling

Colleen Kelley (aka digitalkitty) joins us to talk about water cooling pros and cons, costs, noise, and her approach to the arts of making hot stuff chill out.

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Round Table: Goe Location Privacy

Darren and Shannon are joined by Rob Fuller (aka Mubix) to discuss concerns in iPhone photo privacy, EXIF data mining and geo-location XSS attacks via GoToMeeting.


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Snubs Report: 25 Gigs of Free Cloud Storage

I’m big about backups, specially online storage. I’m sure you remember my Wuala Snubs Report from a few weeks ago, right? And Hak5 uses Dropbox for sharing our videos with each of the crew.

So I decided to check out the Windows version called Windows Live Skydrive.

Features included are:

  • 25 GB online storage
  • Must sign up or already have a Windows Live account.
  • Password protected with ability to choose who sees what-Protected, Shared, and Public folders.
    Up to 30 folders.
  • accessible from any web enabled device or computer, any OS.
  • Drag and drop to upload to Skydrive.

Folders have unique web addresses, so you can save the link as a favorite or copy-and-paste it into e-mail or other documents for direct access. The nice thing is, if you already have a MSN login or a hotmail login, you can access Skydrive by using just that. There is no download needed and this is purely web-based.
Go to and login with your Windows Live login. You can automatically access your folders and files.
Each folder has a permission level- Either you only, some friends, all friends, your friends and their contacts, or everyone (public).

If you want to share with your friends, they have to have a Windows live account. This is the part that is lame- you can’t share with your facebook friends, etc. They have to have Windows Live.
To add a file, go into a folder and choose ‘Add File’. From there you can drag and drop your files into Skydrive, they upload automatically, and then can be seen by whoever you have chosen.
When you click on a file, you can view the information about it- like the camera that took the photo, date and time, and it also creates a direct link to the photo for easy linking and emailing.
I don’t like Windows Live Skydrive as much as some others that I have tried specifically because you can only use it for Windows/Hotmail users and people in your Windows Live contact list.

This makes it a bad choice, in my opinion, for businesses or friends around the world… But perhaps it’s perfect for family members like Nana and Papa.
Let me know what you think by emailing me at


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  • davo1111@work 4 years ago

    What was the website to track mac addresses? i thought he said ????

  • Hyphen 4 years ago

    Great epi, guys!

    Shanon – I’ve been using SkyDrive since day one when it was 1st introduced, and I LOVE IT. I do IT support at work for 200+ sales reps. I store all of my system utility installs on my skydrive, along with many important docs so I can have access to them anywhere I’ve got a net connection.

    I’ve also been using msn for as long as I can remember, so the need to have a live account is really a non-issue for me. Besides, as many live accounts as you can create, you’ll have another 25 gb online storage drive! — and it’s FREEEEE. Ya can’t beat THAT with a stick.

    • Hyphen 4 years ago

      (A negative rating on my positive comment on SkyDrive?! What gives?? It honestly is a great service. The need to have a Live account really isn’t that terrible.)

      Just wanted to add in that the water cooling segment was fairly informative. I enjoyed it. I build “big bad” gaming rigs myself as a side business, but I deal with air-cooled setups. In my opinion, as long as you’ve got a decent sound system or a good pair of headphones, a bit of fan noise is easily ignored. Besides, I kinda like the ambient white noise produced by my case..

  • i want to thank you for last week.. 😛

  • Nice episode guys keep it up. you guys should build a portable server like tex.

  • batcheej 4 years ago

    Check out ExifTool by Phil Carvey.
    Nice to see an episode that talks about EXIF. Love me some metadata.

    • batcheej 4 years ago

      This tool is by Phil Harvey not Carvey typing is hard.

  • Your argument for SkyDrive is very weak. If you took into account that you had to ‘sign up for the services’ for all the other services you promote, and are “GA-GA” over, then I would not have a gmail account or a Dropbox account or any other service. Yes Dropbox gives you 2 GB of free. 2GB? Really? But, if I coerce 24 other people into signing up for an account, I can have up to 8GB. And if I want to share a folder with someone….guess what…they have to sign up for Dropbox and download a program. Etc., etc., etc.

    But I am sure if Apple created a service that had 1GB of storage, made you wait in line for 13 hours, had to sign-up for a ‘mobile me’ account, costs $25 a month, and was able to transfer my face to face talk time images on the web with a app, and integrate with Twitter….then you would be all…um….oh yeah,…”Ga-Ga”!

    Felt like an unbiased review.

  • Rollpunga 4 years ago

    @ rocnred
    agreed and Very well said.

  • Jamie 4 years ago

    I have turned on location services, 3G & WiFi on my iPhone and submitted the photos to Facebook but no location data exists when using the Exif viewer.

  • Holy shit balls… I just realized all of my exif data on all of my pictures contains that information.

  • steven 4 years ago

    Would be interested to know if oil cooling ( is really more efficient than water cooling at distributing the heat.

  • sh4rkbyt3 4 years ago

    Loved DigitalKitty’s segment on WaterCooling and especially Shannon’s tip for turning off geo location finding! keep up the great work! I watch Hak5 instead of TV!!!

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